Comments on: Municipal WiMax “expensive, temperamental and prone to interference” http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/07/25/municipal-wimax-expensive-temperamental-and-prone-to-interference/ Spam, Security, Privacy, Spyware, Phishing & Viruses from the Front Lines. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 05:34:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: BJ Gillette http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/07/25/municipal-wimax-expensive-temperamental-and-prone-to-interference/#comment-1287 Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:23:10 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/07/25/municipal-wimax-expensive-temperamental-and-prone-to-interference/#comment-1287 Hi Drew, RE: WiMax, 3G, and Wifi will all be on the playing field, and that they will all have different applications and different users. Using one technology to better take advantage of another is definetly where I see all of this going… Bingo! RE: I can see where giving it away can benefit the community, as long as there is a negotiable way to pay for the equipment and the bandwidth. I think giving wireless service away is a near-perfect way to keep providers from investing in building out, maintaining and continually updating a small town's datacom infrastructure. Hi Drew,
RE: WiMax, 3G, and Wifi will all be on the playing field, and that they will all have different applications and different users. Using one technology to better take advantage of another is definetly where I see all of this going…

Bingo!

RE: I can see where giving it away can benefit the community, as long as there is a negotiable way to pay for the equipment and the bandwidth.

I think giving wireless service away is a near-perfect way to keep providers from investing in building out, maintaining and continually updating a small town’s datacom infrastructure.

]]> by: D. Lentz http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/07/25/municipal-wimax-expensive-temperamental-and-prone-to-interference/#comment-1282 Sun, 30 Jul 2006 02:58:07 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/07/25/municipal-wimax-expensive-temperamental-and-prone-to-interference/#comment-1282 I just read through the presentation that Monica Paolini gave at WCA and I must say that I agree with her points that are made in that presentation. I too believe that WiMax, 3G, and Wifi will all be on the playing field, and that they will all have different applications and different users. Using one technology to better take advantage of another is definetly where I see all of this going... As far as building out metro areas, for the last 4 years I have been involved in a project that blankets close to 7,000 sq. mi. with a pre-Wimax (Navini) deployment. I was working for an ISP so the model was a little different, but I can see where giving it away can benefit the community, as long as there is a negotiable way to pay for the equipment and the bandwidth. Look at some of the more popular models of metro mesh deployments using ad-based services to offse the cost to the service provider: The community gets the access, the municipality gets the network, the ISP gets the revenue, and end the end its a great realationship between all of them. :) Happily ever after, eh? Now, if you are looking at a hybrid network, let it be known that there are certain mesh equipment manufacturers that have the capacity and the capability to knock it all out in one. None of the old single or dual-radios will be to good at it, but if you take a look at modular equipment (i.e. Strix Systems) you can pretty much light up 100 or so nodes with one single bandwidth injection area. But don't take my word for it: http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=97244 I just read through the presentation that Monica Paolini gave at WCA and I must say that I agree with her points that are made in that presentation. I too believe that WiMax, 3G, and Wifi will all be on the playing field, and that they will all have different applications and different users. Using one technology to better take advantage of another is definetly where I see all of this going…

As far as building out metro areas, for the last 4 years I have been involved in a project that blankets close to 7,000 sq. mi. with a pre-Wimax (Navini) deployment. I was working for an ISP so the model was a little different, but I can see where giving it away can benefit the community, as long as there is a negotiable way to pay for the equipment and the bandwidth. Look at some of the more popular models of metro mesh deployments using ad-based services to offse the cost to the service provider: The community gets the access, the municipality gets the network, the ISP gets the revenue, and end the end its a great realationship between all of them. :) Happily ever after, eh?

Now, if you are looking at a hybrid network, let it be known that there are certain mesh equipment manufacturers that have the capacity and the capability to knock it all out in one. None of the old single or dual-radios will be to good at it, but if you take a look at modular equipment (i.e. Strix Systems) you can pretty much light up 100 or so nodes with one single bandwidth injection area. But don’t take my word for it:

http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=97244

]]> by: BJ Gillette http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/07/25/municipal-wimax-expensive-temperamental-and-prone-to-interference/#comment-1276 Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:53:31 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/07/25/municipal-wimax-expensive-temperamental-and-prone-to-interference/#comment-1276 Hi Drew. Check out <a href="http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/07/24/free-muni-wireless-whats-a-small-town-to-do/" rel="nofollow"> Free Muni-Wireless. What’s A Small Town To Do?</a>. A couple of local community colleges have teamed up with local ISPs to build out WiMAX projects designed to cover the entire metro Quad Cities metro area. Since posting that article, another outfit (that is well-known in the Midwest) is working a proposal through upper management to knock up a combined 802.11/WiMax. Looks like we're well on our way to a number of privately funded projects. Hi Drew.
Check out
Free Muni-Wireless. What’s A Small Town To Do?.

A couple of local community colleges have teamed up with local ISPs to build out WiMAX projects designed to cover the entire metro Quad Cities metro area.

Since posting that article, another outfit (that is well-known in the Midwest) is working a proposal through upper management to knock up a combined 802.11/WiMax.

Looks like we’re well on our way to a number of privately funded projects.

]]> by: D. lentz http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/07/25/municipal-wimax-expensive-temperamental-and-prone-to-interference/#comment-1275 Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:28:50 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/07/25/municipal-wimax-expensive-temperamental-and-prone-to-interference/#comment-1275 Well, what I see with Wifi and WiMax is a combination of the two to best serve any community where it's used. I have built out pre-Wimax networks and am now working on many different mesh opprotunities. With my experience and from what I can see, these two technologies not only compliment each other, but give each other room to grow and provide tons of many different features and services. Drop me a line at drew at drewlentz dot com and we'll further our discusisons about your project in IA. -d Well, what I see with Wifi and WiMax is a combination of the two to best serve any community where it’s used. I have built out pre-Wimax networks and am now working on many different mesh opprotunities.
With my experience and from what I can see, these two technologies not only compliment each other, but give each other room to grow and provide tons of many different features and services. Drop me a line at drew at drewlentz dot com and we’ll further our discusisons about your project in IA.

-d

]]> by: BJ Gillette http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/07/25/municipal-wimax-expensive-temperamental-and-prone-to-interference/#comment-1273 Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:17:30 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/07/25/municipal-wimax-expensive-temperamental-and-prone-to-interference/#comment-1273 Hi D. Agreed. I recently shared my thoughts on Email Battles, as a member of a Wireless Task Force that's <a href="http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/07/24/free-muni-wireless-whats-a-small-town-to-do/" rel="nofollow">wading through these issues for Bettendorf, IA</a>. The comments have been excellent, and as a result of that article, we conferenced with some folks who have simplified the process. One guy pointed us to his other community rollouts that include both WiMax and 802.11. (Reminds me of the old combined Ethernet/Arcnet network cards.) In other words, he doesn't care what users use. He just wants to make sure he provides it. That's what I think Seybold might be trying to say. WiMax may morph into one of the zillions of embedded enabling protocols, about which. policy makers needn't concern themselves. Hi D.
Agreed.

I recently shared my thoughts on Email Battles, as a member of a Wireless Task Force that’s wading through these issues for Bettendorf, IA.

The comments have been excellent, and as a result of that article, we conferenced with some folks who have simplified the process.

One guy pointed us to his other community rollouts that include both WiMax and 802.11. (Reminds me of the old combined Ethernet/Arcnet network cards.)

In other words, he doesn’t care what users use. He just wants to make sure he provides it.

That’s what I think Seybold might be trying to say.

WiMax may morph into one of the zillions of embedded enabling protocols, about which. policy makers needn’t concern themselves.

]]> by: D. Lentz http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/07/25/municipal-wimax-expensive-temperamental-and-prone-to-interference/#comment-1272 Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:59:24 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/07/25/municipal-wimax-expensive-temperamental-and-prone-to-interference/#comment-1272 Not too familiar, but now reading up :) To clarify, I don't think Seybold is really a putz. He's got some great points to be made, I just think that BWA is more than just something that is gonna be here one day and gone the next. Not too familiar, but now reading up :)
To clarify, I don’t think Seybold is really a putz. He’s got some great points to be made, I just think that BWA is more than just something that is gonna be here one day and gone the next.

]]> by: BJ Gillette http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/07/25/municipal-wimax-expensive-temperamental-and-prone-to-interference/#comment-1263 Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:17:02 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/07/25/municipal-wimax-expensive-temperamental-and-prone-to-interference/#comment-1263 Hi D. So you thing Seybold's a putz. What about Monica Paolini? Hi D.
So you thing Seybold’s a putz. What about Monica Paolini?

]]> by: D. Lentz http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/07/25/municipal-wimax-expensive-temperamental-and-prone-to-interference/#comment-1262 Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:17:01 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/07/25/municipal-wimax-expensive-temperamental-and-prone-to-interference/#comment-1262 This is classic. I love Seybold's attitude towards everything broadband wireless. 3 years ago he referred to all data communication provider in the RF spectrum as "RF interlopers" and whined and moaned about how broadband wireless access would never amount to anything. Ha. This is great. This is classic. I love Seybold’s attitude towards everything broadband wireless. 3 years ago he referred to all data communication provider in the RF spectrum as “RF interlopers” and whined and moaned about how broadband wireless access would never amount to anything. Ha. This is great.

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