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	<title>Comments on: Angry Victims Describe The Most Disastrous Virus Of 2006: McAfee AntiVirus</title>
	<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/03/13/virus_aadbbhedeg_ji/</link>
	<description>Spam, Security, Privacy, Spyware, Phishing &#038; Viruses from the Front Lines.</description>
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		<title>by: MrMcKeigue</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/03/13/virus_aadbbhedeg_ji/#comment-2042</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>McAfee is just fine. We've used it for years. Just because someone f's up their own computer doesn't relocate blame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McAfee is just fine. We&#8217;ve used it for years. Just because someone f&#8217;s up their own computer doesn&#8217;t relocate blame.
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		<title>by: I GNU I'd be disillusioned with Windows</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/03/13/virus_aadbbhedeg_ji/#comment-1742</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 12:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I used McAfee viruscan 2 for Windows 95 and it was the best AV around at the time - lightyears ahead of the rest. I was so impressed I upgraded to 3, and then finally version 4, which had endless nifty features but still had a traditional AV interface (easier to use), instead of a "my first computer" web interface like they all have now. Detection was the best in its class throughout the whole time (1996-2001ish). Performance was great. I could fit version 4 on a 486-DX2 laptop with disk space and processor power to spare.

Hell, didn't it all go pear-shaped! From then on it got worse and worse. Difficult to use interfaces, supposedly designed for beginners; the inability to disable anything or change any settings; automatic disinfection instead of "ask me what to do" dialogues... and now the installer alone for McAfee AV is bigger than the hard disk on my old laptop! And when I tried a trial, it dragged my Core 2 duo to a halt.

Do yourself a favour, and buy elegant, small and separate AV, firewall and anti-adware solutions. Some companies still make ones that don't bring your computer to its knees, or treat you like you're an idiot. So many "security" solutions slow your system to a crawl, and automatically remove "threats" without you asking - which in my experience has been as unpleasant as having a virus, and as dangerous than not having an AV at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used McAfee viruscan 2 for Windows 95 and it was the best AV around at the time - lightyears ahead of the rest. I was so impressed I upgraded to 3, and then finally version 4, which had endless nifty features but still had a traditional AV interface (easier to use), instead of a &#8220;my first computer&#8221; web interface like they all have now. Detection was the best in its class throughout the whole time (1996-2001ish). Performance was great. I could fit version 4 on a 486-DX2 laptop with disk space and processor power to spare.</p>
<p>Hell, didn&#8217;t it all go pear-shaped! From then on it got worse and worse. Difficult to use interfaces, supposedly designed for beginners; the inability to disable anything or change any settings; automatic disinfection instead of &#8220;ask me what to do&#8221; dialogues&#8230; and now the installer alone for McAfee AV is bigger than the hard disk on my old laptop! And when I tried a trial, it dragged my Core 2 duo to a halt.</p>
<p>Do yourself a favour, and buy elegant, small and separate AV, firewall and anti-adware solutions. Some companies still make ones that don&#8217;t bring your computer to its knees, or treat you like you&#8217;re an idiot. So many &#8220;security&#8221; solutions slow your system to a crawl, and automatically remove &#8220;threats&#8221; without you asking - which in my experience has been as unpleasant as having a virus, and as dangerous than not having an AV at all.
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		<title>by: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/03/13/virus_aadbbhedeg_ji/#comment-1540</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 13:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Tested and removed McAfee AntiVirus Plus 2007.... 
 JUNK ware !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tested and removed McAfee AntiVirus Plus 2007&#8230;.<br />
 JUNK ware !
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		<title>by: Henri Coderre</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/03/13/virus_aadbbhedeg_ji/#comment-579</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 19:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I don't know if what happened to me last weekend has anything to do with the W95/CTX virus being mentionned, but here's what I do know.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; The computer started acting strangely, so I decided to restart it, and see if that would solve the problem. My computer is two months old. I have an XP with Service Pack 2, etc. Top of the line computer. Everything worked fine. My computer came with a trial version of McAfee's SecurityCenter. When the trial was coming to an end, I decided to accept McAfee's SecurityCenter one year service contract, which includes: Viruscan, Personal Firewall Plus, Privacy Service, and Spamkiller. On the 29th of April 2006, all hell broke lose, when during an update installation for Viruscan I was being prevented from shutting down the computer. A message informaed me that McAfee was running an update installation in the background, and that they would let me know when I could shut down.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; I began wondering about the whole thing. I mean, anyone who's programmed knows how easy it is to make a dialog box, slap in an icon, and write a message aimed at a user. What tells me this is McAfee. I found it harder and harder to believe two hours later that this message was authentic.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; After I unplugged the machine twice (the power button was deactivated) I gave up trying, and fell at the mercy of whoever was doing whatever to my new computer. Some eight hours later, the machine closed down by itself. It was two in the morning. I decided to wait until the next day to turn it on again.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; At around supper time the next day, I turned on the computer not knowing what to expect. The machine behaved the way it had the day before, and again I decided to shut it down, and restart it. The same message came back on screen. Approximately nine hours later, the computer restarted, and a message appeared telling me there had been an error during the installation of an update for Viruscan. I had to wait that long before finding out what had gone on! I'm not impressed, and as soon as I can, McAfee's not just losing my business, but I'm making it my business to let everyone I know know about what I think about McAfee's service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if what happened to me last weekend has anything to do with the W95/CTX virus being mentionned, but here&#8217;s what I do know.</p>
<p> The computer started acting strangely, so I decided to restart it, and see if that would solve the problem. My computer is two months old. I have an XP with Service Pack 2, etc. Top of the line computer. Everything worked fine. My computer came with a trial version of McAfee&#8217;s SecurityCenter. When the trial was coming to an end, I decided to accept McAfee&#8217;s SecurityCenter one year service contract, which includes: Viruscan, Personal Firewall Plus, Privacy Service, and Spamkiller. On the 29th of April 2006, all hell broke lose, when during an update installation for Viruscan I was being prevented from shutting down the computer. A message informaed me that McAfee was running an update installation in the background, and that they would let me know when I could shut down.</p>
<p> I began wondering about the whole thing. I mean, anyone who&#8217;s programmed knows how easy it is to make a dialog box, slap in an icon, and write a message aimed at a user. What tells me this is McAfee. I found it harder and harder to believe two hours later that this message was authentic.</p>
<p> After I unplugged the machine twice (the power button was deactivated) I gave up trying, and fell at the mercy of whoever was doing whatever to my new computer. Some eight hours later, the machine closed down by itself. It was two in the morning. I decided to wait until the next day to turn it on again.</p>
<p> At around supper time the next day, I turned on the computer not knowing what to expect. The machine behaved the way it had the day before, and again I decided to shut it down, and restart it. The same message came back on screen. Approximately nine hours later, the computer restarted, and a message appeared telling me there had been an error during the installation of an update for Viruscan. I had to wait that long before finding out what had gone on! I&#8217;m not impressed, and as soon as I can, McAfee&#8217;s not just losing my business, but I&#8217;m making it my business to let everyone I know know about what I think about McAfee&#8217;s service.
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		<title>by: Scott Alan Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/03/13/virus_aadbbhedeg_ji/#comment-578</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I am a consultant who was called in to a shop that had Microsoft SQL Server blown away by this "malware".  I would never run McAfee on my own machines nor do any of my "managed" clients touch it.  This was one of those great combinations of proving my worth to my regular customers and showing others why they need consultants like me.  Thanks, McAfee, its much easier to show value with enterprise outages than with "well the consultant recommended Symantec."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a consultant who was called in to a shop that had Microsoft SQL Server blown away by this &#8220;malware&#8221;.  I would never run McAfee on my own machines nor do any of my &#8220;managed&#8221; clients touch it.  This was one of those great combinations of proving my worth to my regular customers and showing others why they need consultants like me.  Thanks, McAfee, its much easier to show value with enterprise outages than with &#8220;well the consultant recommended Symantec.&#8221;
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		<title>by: Editor</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/03/13/virus_aadbbhedeg_ji/#comment-577</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>@Ensley Cooper.&lt;br&gt; Good input. Others have obviously had a different experience with McAfee.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; We vehemently disagree on the idea of using a monolithic solution. You'll have a tough time finding any sizeable contingent of security professionals (who are not aligned in some way with monolithic vendors) who think that strategy belongs in the Best Practices category.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; As for what's good about McAfee... Surely their advertising budget is large enough to buy the spirited promotion of their philosophy, both above board and below. &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; It's too bad they don't move a bit of that treasure chest over to the QoS side of the house.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; And about that "far-left" zinger... We have to ask, Ensley: What the hell are you smoking? Your last conclusion brings light to the reasoning behind your earlier comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ensley Cooper.<br /> Good input. Others have obviously had a different experience with McAfee.</p>
<p> We vehemently disagree on the idea of using a monolithic solution. You&#8217;ll have a tough time finding any sizeable contingent of security professionals (who are not aligned in some way with monolithic vendors) who think that strategy belongs in the Best Practices category.</p>
<p> As for what&#8217;s good about McAfee&#8230; Surely their advertising budget is large enough to buy the spirited promotion of their philosophy, both above board and below. </p>
<p> It&#8217;s too bad they don&#8217;t move a bit of that treasure chest over to the QoS side of the house.</p>
<p> And about that &#8220;far-left&#8221; zinger&#8230; We have to ask, Ensley: What the hell are you smoking? Your last conclusion brings light to the reasoning behind your earlier comments.
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		<title>by: Ensley Cooper, Selective Title Research</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/03/13/virus_aadbbhedeg_ji/#comment-576</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Everyone seems to enjoy attacking McAfee. It's hilarious because most have yet to discover that the ONLINE SUBSCRIPTION applications are better than the BOXED Version. I had Signature DAT File on my system for a while. I always run a scan after it installs. NO FILES WERE TAGGED "W95/CTX". NOTHING WAS QUARANTINED. Virus Scan ONLINE ran perfectly. It scanned 11.2 GB of data, and the program informed me that the hard drive was clean. Solution: (1) Don't mix brands of protective software unless you know what you are doing, e.g., Zone Alarm instead of the McAfee Firewall. (2) Don't buy the box. Get the Online Subscription applications. The updates are quicker as well as automatically downloaded. And if you went to http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_138884.htm you would have found several links provided by McAfee to help you get your PC back to normal. AVERT Laboratories makes a goof, and everyone wants to vilify them. What about when they issue an emergency out-of-cycle DAT File so you are protected from a virus that is a "Medium" Threat or higher, and you get it before the malware hits your area? How about giving them credit for that? They have the best Emergency Response Team on the globe. Does Norton offer you the opportunity to upload possibly infected files DIRECTLY into their Virus Research computers like McAfee does? If you are going to vilify a good company like McAfee, then show fair reporting and say what they do right. No far-left slant &#038; spin, please!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone seems to enjoy attacking McAfee. It&#8217;s hilarious because most have yet to discover that the ONLINE SUBSCRIPTION applications are better than the BOXED Version. I had Signature DAT File on my system for a while. I always run a scan after it installs. NO FILES WERE TAGGED &#8220;W95/CTX&#8221;. NOTHING WAS QUARANTINED. Virus Scan ONLINE ran perfectly. It scanned 11.2 GB of data, and the program informed me that the hard drive was clean. Solution: (1) Don&#8217;t mix brands of protective software unless you know what you are doing, e.g., Zone Alarm instead of the McAfee Firewall. (2) Don&#8217;t buy the box. Get the Online Subscription applications. The updates are quicker as well as automatically downloaded. And if you went to <a href='http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_138884.htm' rel='nofollow'>http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_138884.htm</a> you would have found several links provided by McAfee to help you get your PC back to normal. AVERT Laboratories makes a goof, and everyone wants to vilify them. What about when they issue an emergency out-of-cycle DAT File so you are protected from a virus that is a &#8220;Medium&#8221; Threat or higher, and you get it before the malware hits your area? How about giving them credit for that? They have the best Emergency Response Team on the globe. Does Norton offer you the opportunity to upload possibly infected files DIRECTLY into their Virus Research computers like McAfee does? If you are going to vilify a good company like McAfee, then show fair reporting and say what they do right. No far-left slant &#038; spin, please!
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		<title>by: Millhouse</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/03/13/virus_aadbbhedeg_ji/#comment-575</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I know more people who've had problems with McAfee messing up their computers than I know people who are still using it.</description>
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		<title>by: Zippy</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/03/13/virus_aadbbhedeg_ji/#comment-574</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I spent a whole weekend trying to dig out of this. Thanks McAfee!</description>
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