Comments on: Congressional Hearing Exposes Goolag; Cult of the Dead Cow Flies Again http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/02/15/privacy_aadjjciiia_dc/ Spam, Security, Privacy, Spyware, Phishing & Viruses from the Front Lines. Wed, 07 Jan 2009 12:53:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: mick4394 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/02/15/privacy_aadjjciiia_dc/#comment-488 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:19:35 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/02/15/privacy_aadjjciiia_dc/#comment-488 Hey Bruce, why don't you enlighten all of us and tell us where it isn't "all about the money"?<br> <br> That comment and your lame little shot at Bill Gates showed all of us where you stand. Hey Bruce, why don’t you enlighten all of us and tell us where it isn’t “all about the money”?

That comment and your lame little shot at Bill Gates showed all of us where you stand.

]]> by: slobodan http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/02/15/privacy_aadjjciiia_dc/#comment-487 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:24:46 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/02/15/privacy_aadjjciiia_dc/#comment-487 Bruce! when Bill Gates did not make policy, Washington nearly put him out of business. M$ did not have any option. USA isnt everything of the money until you obtain to the giants like Cisco (great firewall of China) and Search Engines. you say Chinese not same? read a book. Bruce! when Bill Gates did not make policy, Washington nearly put him out of business. M$ did not have any option. USA isnt everything of the money until you obtain to the giants like Cisco (great firewall of China) and Search Engines. you say Chinese not same? read a book.

]]> by: Bruce http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/02/15/privacy_aadjjciiia_dc/#comment-486 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:15:13 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/02/15/privacy_aadjjciiia_dc/#comment-486 I live in China. I can bypass everything the Chinese gov't. throws my way by using proxy servers, ssh tunnels, etc. And if you enter http://www.google.com/intl/en-US/ in your browser here in China, without doing anything else, you are getting the same Google you get in the good old Compromised States of America.<br> <br> What the Chinese communist gov't. does to it's citizens everyday (beating, imprisoning, killing) because they don't follow the communist party line, is nothing new. The fact that US companies will sell their soul for a buck is nothing new. The fact that Bill Gates is a theif, and got his start stealing computer time from Harvard, is nothing new.<br> <br> The problem with all of this from the U.S.A. standpoint is that people like Bill Gates own the lawmakers, so they won't do anything to him....or Google, Yahoo, you name it.<br> <br> In the U.S.A. it is all about money. I live in China. I can bypass everything the Chinese gov’t. throws my way by using proxy servers, ssh tunnels, etc. And if you enter http://www.google.com/intl/en-US/ in your browser here in China, without doing anything else, you are getting the same Google you get in the good old Compromised States of America.

What the Chinese communist gov’t. does to it’s citizens everyday (beating, imprisoning, killing) because they don’t follow the communist party line, is nothing new. The fact that US companies will sell their soul for a buck is nothing new. The fact that Bill Gates is a theif, and got his start stealing computer time from Harvard, is nothing new.

The problem with all of this from the U.S.A. standpoint is that people like Bill Gates own the lawmakers, so they won’t do anything to him….or Google, Yahoo, you name it.

In the U.S.A. it is all about money.

]]> by: Frankie http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/02/15/privacy_aadjjciiia_dc/#comment-485 Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:30:02 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/02/15/privacy_aadjjciiia_dc/#comment-485 @Mike: Hey Mike, get a grip. If this isn't about money, how bout Google, Yahoo and the rest donate all profits to the Chinese people. Maybe to all those poor folks displaced by the Three Gorges Damn project. Then they might have a leg to stand on. But don't get me wrong. What Google's doing doesn't even compare to Yahoo, unless we find out they're ratting people out too. @Mike: Hey Mike, get a grip. If this isn’t about money, how bout Google, Yahoo and the rest donate all profits to the Chinese people. Maybe to all those poor folks displaced by the Three Gorges Damn project. Then they might have a leg to stand on. But don’t get me wrong. What Google’s doing doesn’t even compare to Yahoo, unless we find out they’re ratting people out too.

]]> by: mick4394 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/02/15/privacy_aadjjciiia_dc/#comment-484 Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:44:30 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/02/15/privacy_aadjjciiia_dc/#comment-484 Quote:<br> Posted on 02/16/2006 @ 02:43:41 CST <br> If they had gone against the Chinese governments wishes, you can be sure that NOBODY in China would be able to use Google at all.<br> ___________________________________<br> <br> You are competely missing the point.<br> Who care's if the Chinese people have access to Google? I don't. Certainly not if all they're getting is what the Chinese government wants shoved down their throats.<br> Google is not providing superior searching for the Chinese. They're providing watered down, censored (bordering on) propaganda. <br> <br> Google is profiting by enabling the type of government that countless great Americans have died trying to destroy for the past century. Quote:
Posted on 02/16/2006 @ 02:43:41 CST
If they had gone against the Chinese governments wishes, you can be sure that NOBODY in China would be able to use Google at all.
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You are competely missing the point.
Who care’s if the Chinese people have access to Google? I don’t. Certainly not if all they’re getting is what the Chinese government wants shoved down their throats.
Google is not providing superior searching for the Chinese. They’re providing watered down, censored (bordering on) propaganda.

Google is profiting by enabling the type of government that countless great Americans have died trying to destroy for the past century.

]]> by: Mike http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/02/15/privacy_aadjjciiia_dc/#comment-483 Thu, 16 Feb 2006 02:43:41 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/02/15/privacy_aadjjciiia_dc/#comment-483 First: I feel terrible about the situation in China, with dissidents being suppressed by government. However, now that everyone knows that Google is cooperating with the Chinese government's censorship, dissidents can be more aware in their dealings, and probably have a much LOWER chance of being caught. <br> <br> Also, this move by Google means that the VAST majority of people in China can now continue to use Google to do all of the things it does, such as search like no other search engine can. While this situation is not perfect, it is for the best. It is not to make a buck, but to provide Google's excellent service to as many people as possible. <br> <br> If they had gone against the Chinese governments wishes, you can be sure that NOBODY in China would be able to use Google at all. First: I feel terrible about the situation in China, with dissidents being suppressed by government. However, now that everyone knows that Google is cooperating with the Chinese government’s censorship, dissidents can be more aware in their dealings, and probably have a much LOWER chance of being caught.

Also, this move by Google means that the VAST majority of people in China can now continue to use Google to do all of the things it does, such as search like no other search engine can. While this situation is not perfect, it is for the best. It is not to make a buck, but to provide Google’s excellent service to as many people as possible.

If they had gone against the Chinese governments wishes, you can be sure that NOBODY in China would be able to use Google at all.

]]> by: pzzzofff http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/02/15/privacy_aadjjciiia_dc/#comment-482 Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:25:14 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/02/15/privacy_aadjjciiia_dc/#comment-482 wachoo gunna doo wen u lose yahoo? wachoo gunna doo wen u lose yahoo?

]]> by: Montage http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/02/15/privacy_aadjjciiia_dc/#comment-481 Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:21:37 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/02/15/privacy_aadjjciiia_dc/#comment-481 It would be hypocritical, to say the least, if the US govt somehow intervened to stop this nasty biz. After all, our elected federal government representatives have conveyed Most Favored Nation status on China every year since 1979. I don't think Miscrosoft, Yahoo, Google, etc. have to cncerned about any interference from the Washington crowd, unless, of course, there's a groundswell of support for them to do so. It would be hypocritical, to say the least, if the US govt somehow intervened to stop this nasty biz. After all, our elected federal government representatives have conveyed Most Favored Nation status on China every year since 1979. I don’t think Miscrosoft, Yahoo, Google, etc. have to cncerned about any interference from the Washington crowd, unless, of course, there’s a groundswell of support for them to do so.

]]> by: Frankie http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/02/15/privacy_aadjjciiia_dc/#comment-480 Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:19:56 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/02/15/privacy_aadjjciiia_dc/#comment-480 What must it feel like to be a political dissident rotting in the Chinese gulag, knowing that a US company helped put you there. The country you've always looked to, just to keep your hopes up. And you can't help but notice, they did it for a buck. The moral missing links at Yahoo are missing something. I think it's their humanity. Otherwise, they couldn't sleep at night. What must it feel like to be a political dissident rotting in the Chinese gulag, knowing that a US company helped put you there. The country you’ve always looked to, just to keep your hopes up. And you can’t help but notice, they did it for a buck. The moral missing links at Yahoo are missing something. I think it’s their humanity. Otherwise, they couldn’t sleep at night.

]]> by: trasker http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/02/15/privacy_aadjjciiia_dc/#comment-479 Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:59:53 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/02/15/privacy_aadjjciiia_dc/#comment-479 Yahoo!, Google, et al. are the kinds of firms that give capitalism a bad name.<br> <br> Just because it makes you a buck, doesn't mean it's OK. Yahoo!, Google, et al. are the kinds of firms that give capitalism a bad name.

Just because it makes you a buck, doesn’t mean it’s OK.

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