Comments on: Microsoft Employees Rage As Internet Explorer Ship Sinks http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/01/03/browsers_aacehieihi_gd/ Spam, Security, Privacy, Spyware, Phishing & Viruses from the Front Lines. Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:28:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: gavin http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/01/03/browsers_aacehieihi_gd/#comment-1865 Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:26:00 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/01/03/browsers_aacehieihi_gd/#comment-1865 microsoft has lost a dozen users i know alltogether. i converted to linux 3 years ago and my computer has never gone down(with the exception of wen i screw around and break something but thats my own idiocy not the os.) microsoft just isnt worth my time. microsoft has lost a dozen users i know alltogether. i converted to linux 3 years ago and my computer has never gone down(with the exception of wen i screw around and break something but thats my own idiocy not the os.) microsoft just isnt worth my time.

]]> by: Zanzibar BuckBuck McFate http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/01/03/browsers_aacehieihi_gd/#comment-320 Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:54:47 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/01/03/browsers_aacehieihi_gd/#comment-320 People love to whine. <br> <br> Flashback: IE 5 is released, users complain, "why does Microsoft keep adding new features?", "We want compatibility", blah, blah, blah... <br> <br> Now it's "Why DOESN'T Microsoft add new features?" <br> <br> Awww, SHADDUP ALREADY! There are FREE alternatives!!! People love to whine.

Flashback: IE 5 is released, users complain, “why does Microsoft keep adding new features?”, “We want compatibility”, blah, blah, blah…

Now it’s “Why DOESN’T Microsoft add new features?”

Awww, SHADDUP ALREADY! There are FREE alternatives!!!

]]> by: Anonymous http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/01/03/browsers_aacehieihi_gd/#comment-319 Wed, 04 Jan 2006 00:53:23 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/01/03/browsers_aacehieihi_gd/#comment-319 KDE is porting Konqueror to windows as we speak. KDE is porting Konqueror to windows as we speak.

]]> by: Hans http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/01/03/browsers_aacehieihi_gd/#comment-318 Tue, 03 Jan 2006 14:20:18 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/01/03/browsers_aacehieihi_gd/#comment-318 Konqueror is also a really awesome browser as well. People tend to forget to mention it. In fact, someone really ought to try porting it to Windows. I wonder how that would fare.<br> <br> As for Internet Explorer, it's true that it's really starting to show its age (in features terms). But to those who say "yada my IE works fine and I've never been infected", well... neither had I. On my old PC, I never even bothered to update Windows XP with service packs. And _nothing happened_. Hurrah.<br> <br> However, when I bought myself a new laptop recently, which came included with the very latest patched Windows XP that has an almost proper firewall and popup blocker and what not (and I now did regular updates diligently as well) + Norton Antivirus, within a few months I was infected with some nasty trojan/spyware incarnation that slowed me down to the speed of a Commodore 64 running Vista Beta 2. I've had a few collegues ask me to fix up their laptops as well and apparently they got borked from only using Windows for a few days. And, to my own disbelief, I've witnessed before my very own eyes a copy of Windows, which we had just freshly installed, get borked within a few minutes. Something is going on and something which MS can't just fix at a moments notice.<br> <br> Hopefully Vista will fare better. However, one thing is for certain, MS really needs to work on IE. It's a very important part of their business strategy. Make it more compliant to the web standards, that's my main suggestion. Cross browser CSS is a nightmare. Konqueror is also a really awesome browser as well. People tend to forget to mention it. In fact, someone really ought to try porting it to Windows. I wonder how that would fare.

As for Internet Explorer, it’s true that it’s really starting to show its age (in features terms). But to those who say “yada my IE works fine and I’ve never been infected”, well… neither had I. On my old PC, I never even bothered to update Windows XP with service packs. And _nothing happened_. Hurrah.

However, when I bought myself a new laptop recently, which came included with the very latest patched Windows XP that has an almost proper firewall and popup blocker and what not (and I now did regular updates diligently as well) + Norton Antivirus, within a few months I was infected with some nasty trojan/spyware incarnation that slowed me down to the speed of a Commodore 64 running Vista Beta 2. I’ve had a few collegues ask me to fix up their laptops as well and apparently they got borked from only using Windows for a few days. And, to my own disbelief, I’ve witnessed before my very own eyes a copy of Windows, which we had just freshly installed, get borked within a few minutes. Something is going on and something which MS can’t just fix at a moments notice.

Hopefully Vista will fare better. However, one thing is for certain, MS really needs to work on IE. It’s a very important part of their business strategy. Make it more compliant to the web standards, that’s my main suggestion. Cross browser CSS is a nightmare.

]]> by: Danzigstorer http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/01/03/browsers_aacehieihi_gd/#comment-317 Mon, 02 Jan 2006 12:17:23 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/01/03/browsers_aacehieihi_gd/#comment-317 I've visited the site mentioned in the lobby4linux site many times using Maxthon and IE, and I've experienced no problems. I’ve visited the site mentioned in the lobby4linux site many times using Maxthon and IE, and I’ve experienced no problems.

]]> by: Karl O. Pinc http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/01/03/browsers_aacehieihi_gd/#comment-316 Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:08:25 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/01/03/browsers_aacehieihi_gd/#comment-316 Moon writes:<br> <br> "I don't see how it is that you manage to continue inventing this myth about the lack of safety on Internet Explorer."<br> <br> Really? Can you use IE to go to the MS Windows killing website mentioned in "What Part of Virus and Spyware Didnt You Understand?" <br> (http://lobby4linux.com/WordPress/?p=67)<br> <br> As long as simply visting a web site is enough to infect your computer, you will continue to hear about the insecurity of MS products. Moon writes:

“I don’t see how it is that you manage to continue inventing this myth about the lack of safety on Internet Explorer.”

Really? Can you use IE to go to the MS Windows killing website mentioned in “What Part of Virus and Spyware Didnt You Understand?”
(http://lobby4linux.com/WordPress/?p=67)

As long as simply visting a web site is enough to infect your computer, you will continue to hear about the insecurity of MS products.

]]> by: wyclif http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/01/03/browsers_aacehieihi_gd/#comment-315 Sat, 31 Dec 2005 14:02:21 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/01/03/browsers_aacehieihi_gd/#comment-315 The fact that Microsoft has all but killed browser development means that it doesn't care about user exerience on the Web. Mozilla and others are doing all the innovation in that space now. To argue otherwise seems ridiculous given the facts cited above. The fact that Microsoft has all but killed browser development means that it doesn’t care about user exerience on the Web. Mozilla and others are doing all the innovation in that space now. To argue otherwise seems ridiculous given the facts cited above.

]]> by: Moon http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/01/03/browsers_aacehieihi_gd/#comment-314 Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:48:07 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/01/03/browsers_aacehieihi_gd/#comment-314 I don't see how it is that you manage to continue inventing this myth about the lack of safety on Internet Explorer. The fact that there's a 0 day exploit is the fault of the person who released the code without notifying Microsoft with sufficient warning. Aside from that Microsoft hasn't had one of those since Sasser as far as I can remember. Furthermore I haven't had my machine infected once since migrating to XP 2 years ago, I have not once used any browser except Internet Explorer. For protection I use MICROSOFT Antispyware Beta, WINDOWS Firewall and Norton Antivirus. If you guys manage to get your computers infected then it's really your fault and if you're that paranoid about the chance of wondering upon a malicious site then all you need to do is enter a few characters into the run and disable a service for a few days until it gets patched. Honestly, it's been almost 10 years since people have started yelling about the downfall of Microsoft; get used to it, it's not happening. I don’t see how it is that you manage to continue inventing this myth about the lack of safety on Internet Explorer. The fact that there’s a 0 day exploit is the fault of the person who released the code without notifying Microsoft with sufficient warning. Aside from that Microsoft hasn’t had one of those since Sasser as far as I can remember. Furthermore I haven’t had my machine infected once since migrating to XP 2 years ago, I have not once used any browser except Internet Explorer. For protection I use MICROSOFT Antispyware Beta, WINDOWS Firewall and Norton Antivirus. If you guys manage to get your computers infected then it’s really your fault and if you’re that paranoid about the chance of wondering upon a malicious site then all you need to do is enter a few characters into the run and disable a service for a few days until it gets patched. Honestly, it’s been almost 10 years since people have started yelling about the downfall of Microsoft; get used to it, it’s not happening.

]]> by: bobcat http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/01/03/browsers_aacehieihi_gd/#comment-313 Sat, 31 Dec 2005 11:56:08 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/01/03/browsers_aacehieihi_gd/#comment-313 Maxthon's overlay can't save IE from its underlying security problems, like the current WMF zero day exploit. Cut IE loose from the OS, then start over. Maxthon’s overlay can’t save IE from its underlying security problems, like the current WMF zero day exploit. Cut IE loose from the OS, then start over.

]]> by: Danzigstorer http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/01/03/browsers_aacehieihi_gd/#comment-312 Sat, 31 Dec 2005 11:12:35 +0000 http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/01/03/browsers_aacehieihi_gd/#comment-312 Just use Maxthon with IE. Just use Maxthon with IE.

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