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	<title>Comments on: Rootkit Guru: AntiVirus Makes Me Do It</title>
	<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2005/12/20/security_aacejifdhf_ic/</link>
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		<title>by: Chrissie</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2005/12/20/security_aacejifdhf_ic/#comment-1692</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 01:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>In my humble opinion, holy_father and Dood could use a lot of growing up.  There IS no defense for the arguement that is made.  The arrogance and sense of entitlement is astounding.  As for Dood, whoever told you that your temper tantrum is acceptable sold you the London Bridge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my humble opinion, holy_father and Dood could use a lot of growing up.  There IS no defense for the arguement that is made.  The arrogance and sense of entitlement is astounding.  As for Dood, whoever told you that your temper tantrum is acceptable sold you the London Bridge.
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		<title>by: Dood</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2005/12/20/security_aacejifdhf_ic/#comment-294</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>If any of you dorks had the slightest knowledge of how antivirus companies detect malware then maybe some of your comments would be intelligent.  Yes they ARE lying to you YES they ARE giving yo ua false sense of security AND yes they are taking your mony like talking candy from a baby.  Holey_Father IS making them up the stakes and become active.  There is a simple truth taht no av company will be able to stop this type of progam untill they become proactive instead of reactive.  Learn something about your computer you noobs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If any of you dorks had the slightest knowledge of how antivirus companies detect malware then maybe some of your comments would be intelligent.  Yes they ARE lying to you YES they ARE giving yo ua false sense of security AND yes they are taking your mony like talking candy from a baby.  Holey_Father IS making them up the stakes and become active.  There is a simple truth taht no av company will be able to stop this type of progam untill they become proactive instead of reactive.  Learn something about your computer you noobs
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		<title>by: Rondea</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2005/12/20/security_aacejifdhf_ic/#comment-293</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2005 11:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This guy sounds like a Marvel comic book character... from his net-identity, holy_father, to his pronounced noble goals attained through questionable means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy sounds like a Marvel comic book character&#8230; from his net-identity, holy_father, to his pronounced noble goals attained through questionable means.
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		<title>by: Adrien</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2005/12/20/security_aacejifdhf_ic/#comment-291</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 09:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.emailbattles.com/2005/12/20/security_aacejifdhf_ic/#comment-291</guid>
					<description>Do you point out that at which point web safety was just two years ago?  The Chinese, with North Koreans or all the other intruders could "own" any computer on the net.  The viruses and the rootkitters forced Microsoft, Linux, and the rest to be tougher upwards.  Not the kid yourself.  They all are not the script kiddies.  Rootkits are employed by professionals of safety to examine their own systems.  They are employed as an element of greater process controls.  And they are sometimes maltreated for DRM, like Sony BMG showed. While a rootkitter employs the image badboy to make its name, it makes its money being sold with the good types.  The termites are good for forests, bad for houses.  The same thing applies to the rootkitters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you point out that at which point web safety was just two years ago?  The Chinese, with North Koreans or all the other intruders could &#8220;own&#8221; any computer on the net.  The viruses and the rootkitters forced Microsoft, Linux, and the rest to be tougher upwards.  Not the kid yourself.  They all are not the script kiddies.  Rootkits are employed by professionals of safety to examine their own systems.  They are employed as an element of greater process controls.  And they are sometimes maltreated for DRM, like Sony BMG showed. While a rootkitter employs the image badboy to make its name, it makes its money being sold with the good types.  The termites are good for forests, bad for houses.  The same thing applies to the rootkitters.
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		<title>by: Ketema</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2005/12/20/security_aacejifdhf_ic/#comment-292</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 09:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I agree that guys like holy_father should use their considerable talent to make their own anti-virus &#038; anti_rootkit products instead, but at the same time with holy_father and the like drawing attention to the flaws of big market products users would be in much more dange, because for every holy_father who makes his source code public, there is are much more malicious persons out there just stealing your data without you ever knowing or even suspecting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that guys like holy_father should use their considerable talent to make their own anti-virus &#038; anti_rootkit products instead, but at the same time with holy_father and the like drawing attention to the flaws of big market products users would be in much more dange, because for every holy_father who makes his source code public, there is are much more malicious persons out there just stealing your data without you ever knowing or even suspecting.
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		<title>by: shadow</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2005/12/20/security_aacejifdhf_ic/#comment-290</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 08:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This guy is full of s**t. He says he started writing rootkits because AV's are just trying to fool everyone and are in this business just for the money, but later on in the article i see that he is doing the same thing: selling something for a price. So basicly he is doing the same thing as an AV but the object he is selling is different, and that is rootkits. In my opinion it's way better to sell a product that it protects you from certain types of malware than selling malware itself. If i were to decide, i wouldn't even bother publishing this guy's article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy is full of s**t. He says he started writing rootkits because AV&#8217;s are just trying to fool everyone and are in this business just for the money, but later on in the article i see that he is doing the same thing: selling something for a price. So basicly he is doing the same thing as an AV but the object he is selling is different, and that is rootkits. In my opinion it&#8217;s way better to sell a product that it protects you from certain types of malware than selling malware itself. If i were to decide, i wouldn&#8217;t even bother publishing this guy&#8217;s article.
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		<title>by: pussy</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2005/12/20/security_aacejifdhf_ic/#comment-289</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.emailbattles.com/2005/12/20/security_aacejifdhf_ic/#comment-289</guid>
					<description>Instead of challenging the AV vendors to come up with their solution, why not just make your "ultimate anti-rootkit/virus/spywares" application so that not only you'll still get to challenge evrybody to come up with a way to bypass your system but also maybe to take the market that all those cheap solution systems vendor are hogging at the moment. It seems that your more inclined to make rootkits because you what to prove what you can do to those AV vendors, but you dont realize that it would be more of a challenge for your capacity to be on the good side and then just make anybody come up with a way to bypass your system. In this way, you're making money while helping everybody directly but still allowing you to prove your talent to everybody...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of challenging the AV vendors to come up with their solution, why not just make your &#8220;ultimate anti-rootkit/virus/spywares&#8221; application so that not only you&#8217;ll still get to challenge evrybody to come up with a way to bypass your system but also maybe to take the market that all those cheap solution systems vendor are hogging at the moment. It seems that your more inclined to make rootkits because you what to prove what you can do to those AV vendors, but you dont realize that it would be more of a challenge for your capacity to be on the good side and then just make anybody come up with a way to bypass your system. In this way, you&#8217;re making money while helping everybody directly but still allowing you to prove your talent to everybody&#8230;
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		<title>by: Snag</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2005/12/20/security_aacejifdhf_ic/#comment-288</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 00:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>without jackasses like this there would not be a need for AV software in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>without jackasses like this there would not be a need for AV software in the first place.
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		<title>by: Eduardo</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2005/12/20/security_aacejifdhf_ic/#comment-287</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.emailbattles.com/2005/12/20/security_aacejifdhf_ic/#comment-287</guid>
					<description>I also disagree with his methods.  Instead of infecting the computers and the wait of the person to see what the antivirus company makes, must work with the antivirus company to certify to themselves that computers of the peoples are safe.  There its only hackers giving to a reason infect computers and to put a mark on wall.  With its method, the user of the computer finishes most hurt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also disagree with his methods.  Instead of infecting the computers and the wait of the person to see what the antivirus company makes, must work with the antivirus company to certify to themselves that computers of the peoples are safe.  There its only hackers giving to a reason infect computers and to put a mark on wall.  With its method, the user of the computer finishes most hurt.
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		<title>by: tookie</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2005/12/20/security_aacejifdhf_ic/#comment-286</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 13:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Many would disagree with holy_father's methods, but he does seem to be spurring these vendors to improve their products. Still, their products wouldn't need to be so robust without people like holy_father trying to rootkit our systems...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many would disagree with holy_father&#8217;s methods, but he does seem to be spurring these vendors to improve their products. Still, their products wouldn&#8217;t need to be so robust without people like holy_father trying to rootkit our systems&#8230;
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