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	<title>Comments on: Signature War: Rootkits vs Antivirus</title>
	<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2005/12/13/security_aabigebbeg_be/</link>
	<description>Spam, Security, Privacy, Spyware, Phishing &#038; Viruses from the Front Lines.</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: waterboy</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2005/12/13/security_aabigebbeg_be/#comment-95</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 10:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>holy_father on story: hmm, seems to be not so usuall type of text about antidetection, there are not many texts like this one - not offending my point of view, good!  maybe we'll really change the world :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holy_father on story: hmm, seems to be not so usuall type of text about antidetection, there are not many texts like this one - not offending my point of view, good!  maybe we&#8217;ll really change the world <img src='http://www.emailbattles.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: SpannerITWks</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2005/12/13/security_aabigebbeg_be/#comment-94</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You can buy petrol to run a vehicle, or burn a house down with people inside. &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; And there are lots of other examples of things which can be used for different purposes, good or bad.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; What an individual etc does with whatever is down to them to make the right choices, or NOT !&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Writing and selling an RK is NOT illegal, it's the other stuff that's tagged onto it by bad people that does the harm. A " pure " RK on its own does no damage, it would just sit there doing nothing. It's just a way to gain part or full hidden access to a computer. In order for something nasty/dodgy to happen, an RK has to come with an attached payload. The RK is just the carrier/hider of something worse. &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; The term RK is used in Anti Virus, Security etc circles as a generic name which includes, with and without the payload, the actual Trojan etc. &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Either way you wouldn't want one in your comp, and eliminating them Completely can be a nightmare. The ONLY real way to be sure it's gone, is to fdisk and then reformat, and then Reinstall everything.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; You might like to check some of these threads out for further info etc on Detection/Removal -&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; http://www.testing.onlytherightanswers.com/&lt;br&gt; modules.php?name=Forums&#038;file=viewforum&#038;f=9&#038;&lt;br&gt; sid=e846d86f554b722714d9f4349b67bd2c&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Spanner</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can buy petrol to run a vehicle, or burn a house down with people inside. </p>
<p> And there are lots of other examples of things which can be used for different purposes, good or bad.</p>
<p> What an individual etc does with whatever is down to them to make the right choices, or NOT !</p>
<p> Writing and selling an RK is NOT illegal, it&#8217;s the other stuff that&#8217;s tagged onto it by bad people that does the harm. A &#8221; pure &#8221; RK on its own does no damage, it would just sit there doing nothing. It&#8217;s just a way to gain part or full hidden access to a computer. In order for something nasty/dodgy to happen, an RK has to come with an attached payload. The RK is just the carrier/hider of something worse. </p>
<p> The term RK is used in Anti Virus, Security etc circles as a generic name which includes, with and without the payload, the actual Trojan etc. </p>
<p> Either way you wouldn&#8217;t want one in your comp, and eliminating them Completely can be a nightmare. The ONLY real way to be sure it&#8217;s gone, is to fdisk and then reformat, and then Reinstall everything.</p>
<p> You might like to check some of these threads out for further info etc on Detection/Removal -</p>
<p> <a href='http://www.testing.onlytherightanswers.com/' rel='nofollow'>http://www.testing.onlytherightanswers.com/</a><br /> modules.php?name=Forums&#038;file=viewforum&#038;f=9&#038;<br /> sid=e846d86f554b722714d9f4349b67bd2c</p>
<p> Spanner
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		<title>by: oliveoil</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2005/12/13/security_aabigebbeg_be/#comment-93</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I don't get it. Why is it legal to sell a product with which to perform illegal acts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it. Why is it legal to sell a product with which to perform illegal acts?
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		<title>by: SpannerITWks</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2005/12/13/security_aabigebbeg_be/#comment-92</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>All you need to do if for eg you are using IE is to Lockdown it down Securely.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Disable/Prompt - ActiveX/Active Scripting/Java and don't allow Auto Installs.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; A good FW set up for MAX Security.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; And if you don't visit dodgy sites etc And/Or click on unknown crap on ANY site or in emails you have very little if Anything to fear.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; hf and co are the ones who give the " security " people a good needed kick up the rear to wake them up and improve things.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; What others do with these " RK's " is a different matter though !&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Spanner</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you need to do if for eg you are using IE is to Lockdown it down Securely.</p>
<p> Disable/Prompt - ActiveX/Active Scripting/Java and don&#8217;t allow Auto Installs.</p>
<p> A good FW set up for MAX Security.</p>
<p> And if you don&#8217;t visit dodgy sites etc And/Or click on unknown crap on ANY site or in emails you have very little if Anything to fear.</p>
<p> hf and co are the ones who give the &#8221; security &#8221; people a good needed kick up the rear to wake them up and improve things.</p>
<p> What others do with these &#8221; RK&#8217;s &#8221; is a different matter though !</p>
<p> Spanner
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		<title>by: waterboy</title>
		<link>http://www.emailbattles.com/2005/12/13/security_aabigebbeg_be/#comment-91</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>why no link to hacker defender???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why no link to hacker defender???
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